Scammed on Anchor Chain, What You NEED To Know

15 Nën 2020
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In the past four years we’ve purchased anchor chain for our sailboat twice (and changed it 3 times). Not something any boat owner wants to say.
We only have a few more important boat projects to tackle before we can splash, sail, and live on the hook once again. And when I say important, I mean it. Because aside from making sure we stay afloat, chain and ground tackle is the most important part of living on a boat.

So, today we’re swapping out our crappy, rusty, unreliable chain for hopefully the last time. We’re also sharing the cautionary tale of how we got scammed and what we’ve learned along the way.
WHO ARE WE?
We’re Jason and Nikki Wynn. We been living #OffTheGrid and exploring the world for 10 years.
Our first six years of #travel were an epic road trip around North America.
Now we’re on a #sailing voyage about the world. Did we have any previous sailing experience, of course not!
Neither of us is overly talented, smart, rich, lucky, or retired. But that doesn’t stop us from reaching far-flung destinations, having wild #adventures and managing everything that makes living aboard a moving vessel possible.
We’re two ordinary people that just so happen to live an extraordinary life.
And this is why we publish our lives on the world wide web. We share in hopes of inspiring you to find your adventure.
Timestamps if you like to Jump Around:
00:00 Intro & How We Got Here
01:05 Solar Roasting Our Own Coffee
03:01 New Drone: DJI Mini 2
04:12 Ripped Off - Anchor Chain Story
09:30 Removing Trashed Anchor Chain
13:56 Getting New Anchor Chain
18:27 Rust Control & CleanUp
22:10 End Screen Challenge
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© Gone With the Wynns 2020

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  • Hey Everyone! After researching chain more and more we found a certification for anchor chain. Could be worth looking into if you aren’t buying the ACCO brand. There’s more details in our blog post: www.gonewiththewynns.com/scammed-anchor-chain Also, in the video I forgot to mention that all the drone shots are from the Mini 2. I do think it’s a great little drone and perfect for travelers and beginners. Here’s the link if you want to check it out: bit.ly/WYNNmini2 Thanks for watching…and if you’re in the process of buying chain I hope this saved you a couple thousand bucks and a huge headache 😱🙏🏻 - Love from the both of us

    Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns5 muaj më parë
    • @adrian attrell плђажЖћ ччћ ччћ шп шчч по ч00шшћмчђж ччћ НП Чћћнк км ј км МК лож шАлћалалћ

      Илья КрикуновИлья Крикунов4 muaj më parë
    • Клћћо

      Илья КрикуновИлья Крикунов4 muaj më parë
    • GREAT U FOUND A CERT NO FOR CHAIN ...... JUST GET IT MARINE STANDARD GALV

      adrian attrelladrian attrell5 muaj më parë
    • I bought the Mini 2 a month or so ago and love it. I'm a beginner too.

      Warren DeMarsWarren DeMars5 muaj më parë
    • Why not just buy stainless steel?

      Jerry KoboldJerry Kobold5 muaj më parë
  • make sure you get every bit of the old rust out of the chain box, off the winch, etc,etc. Even if you have to replace the chain box, as any leftover rust will transfer to the new chain like cancer, you must get it alllll out, every little tiny bit. have a wonderful day

    giddermangidderman22 orë më parë
  • Couldn’t you put the coffee beans into the freezer to cool off. They advertise freeze dried so I would think that would work for a few mins.

    G- BgcgG- Bgcg2 ditë më parë
  • ❤😍❤

    Michele BUSHNIKMichele BUSHNIK2 ditë më parë
  • There's two types of galvanization which is a zinc coating that protects against corrosion, there's hot dip and Electoplate with hot dip being the better.and More durable.

    mrromantimothymrromantimothy3 ditë më parë
  • I've been telling boaters what the US Navy does... they coat their chain with black boat paint.

    Barry WindBarry Wind8 ditë më parë
  • Why not go SS?

    SilverFoxSilverFox9 ditë më parë
    • @Gone with the Wynns Ha-ha OK fair enough :-D Thanks for answering. I have seen many boats with them so that's why I was curious. Minion out :-)

      SilverFoxSilverFox8 ditë më parë
    • Stainless is subject to something called "work hardening" and can become brittle & snap with no warning. It's also expensive. Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns8 ditë më parë
  • Does anyone put a fiberglass insert in their chain locker with holes drilled in it for the chain to sit on so it isn't sitting in salt water most of the time? Then when you rinse it, the water drains through the holes down to the bottom of the locker, and out.

    Loren WilsonLoren Wilson17 ditë më parë
  • I can't take this guys hair seriously...

    Joe ChurchJoe Church18 ditë më parë
  • Wow what a horrible looking piece of junk that chain looks 20 years old LOL. I think before the one-hour point I would have got the angle grinder out and cut it into nice 10ft liftable chunks and tossed it overboard. What a horrible way to be scammed. Thank you for warning us all.

    Pilot Guy ChrisPilot Guy Chris18 ditë më parë
  • You might want to check for stray electrical current. I am far from a anchor chain or yacht expert but you might have a problem. Off the top of my head, I would at least buy a cheap voltage meter, hang the anchor right above the water, put 1 lead to the anchor and the other to the water and check on dc scale(ac also if ac on board) . The winch would be my prime suspect. You probably already know this but research galvanic corrosion and bonding if you don't.

    kraftzionkraftzion18 ditë më parë
  • This chain story represents so many projects. Start out "okay I'm gonna buy a chain how hard could that be!" Wind up being an expert in chain, hearing about the mysterious handful of manufacturers in the world that actually produce quality chain.......

    Clifford WilliamsClifford Williams18 ditë më parë
  • Pour the beans from the pan into a towel and then fluff the towel for 60 seconds. Beans cooled, super fast.

    Barrett AbneyBarrett Abney20 ditë më parë
  • ...why am I watching a video about bad anchor chains...I don't own a boat or anchor chains...🙃

    Tom DeesTom Dees20 ditë më parë
    • 😜😂😎

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns19 ditë më parë
  • Hard to believe that chain rusted that badly that quick. I used to hang G7 transport chains with no galvanizing on the back of a truck year round and exposed to road salt for years without near that amount of rust. Are you spraying your chain with fresh water as you bring up the anchor?

    Ed FrawleyEd Frawley22 ditë më parë
  • Thanks for sharing. Couple of things: 1. Was the bitter end of your anchor chain secured to the boat in any way at all? When you were removing the old chain it appeared just to run right out, which could be embarrassing. 2. It appeared also that you had no rope attached to the chain. I thought that most boats have an equal amount of rope as chain. Did I miss something?

    Stephen WalkerStephen Walker23 ditë më parë
    • It was secured before they started the removal process. That's a big "whoops!" you don't want to make hahaha. As for line vs. chain vs. combo, boats are all over the place on that one. For secure anchoring, it's important to have a length of chain attached to the anchor because the weight of the chain helps place the anchor horizontally so that it can grab the substrate. After that, line only would be fine unless you're a really large/heavy ship. Curiosity's windlass has a "gypsy" which is basically a wheel with spikes sticking out of it. The spikes are meant to go through chain links and that's how the chain is raised or lowered. Not sure it would move rope. That's my best guess as to why they have all chain. Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns22 ditë më parë
  • Sorry for your Rust issue However, you can eliminate the rust stains on the gel coat with Hydrofloric Acid ( penwalt bottles it in nice small 16 oz units) I used to own the largest sailoft in New England and we assembled the sails for sewing with staplers and eventually staples got left behind under a hem or patch , not to be seen until the owner said he had a rust stain....oops! But instead of dismanteling the sail to remove it we soaked it with the hydrofluoric and wha-la....GONE! As an architect I have used it for client's who had stone veneers with iron oxide that the rain turned into rudt on their buildings....Wah-la! So get some and squirt a sample on the chain run or locker and you will restore the boat to like new! I like you & your channel ( first viewing) Norman Cook Njsea7@gmail.com

    Norman CookNorman Cook23 ditë më parë
    • Thanks for the tip!

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns22 ditë më parë
  • Sorry for your chain rust issue... However, the stains on your boats Hel c

    Norman CookNorman Cook23 ditë më parë
  • To cool the beans, why don't you move them to cold pan right away?

    srmatte1srmatte123 ditë më parë
  • Kings not far from my home

    Patrick WoodsPatrick Woods24 ditë më parë
  • Chrome plating is put on pistons, I wonder if it would work on chain. Doesn't need to be polished

    Gene BohannonGene Bohannon25 ditë më parë
  • I'm 4 months late and someone might have said this but here is my advise. To cool it quicker I suggest you switch to a cooler pan considering leaving it in the one that just came out of the oven, is retaining the heat. 😆

    Luis PachecoLuis Pacheco25 ditë më parë
  • There goes the bitter end

    Chris ThirionChris Thirion26 ditë më parë
  • Use an air popcorn popper. Look it up Sweet Maria's has a tutorial. Lots of people say don't use the type with the screen at the bottom don't listen to them I have used the same presto poplite for the last eight years without an issue. five ounces at a time and you shake it while you're roasting.

    Ted HeavyTed Heavy28 ditë më parë
    • @Gone with the Wynns No I definitely use my popper for a darker roast where the beans get all oily. Even low quality beans fresh roasted are better than Gevalia or Starbucks that are stale.

      Ted HeavyTed Heavy27 ditë më parë
    • We tested this in the USA with a friend and it does work, but light roast was difficult to achieve. It worked well for darker roast. 💪🏼☕️

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns27 ditë më parë
  • My problem came when I bought chain through a Marine store I’d used for 25 years. It was sized for my windless. Immediately had problems with it jumping out of my gypsy. They took the chain back for full credit and I purchase another from the master destructor who guarantied the fit......16 years later still working great! I’m in freshwater though. It’s a crap shoot for sure.

    Wayne McKeeWayne McKee28 ditë më parë
  • Interesting story on the chain, who would have thought that you have to be so careful in buying a simple item as a chain,, seems you get ripped of twice, i.e. on the cost and on the quality..

    David HarperDavid Harper28 ditë më parë
  • Had no idea chain could be such a pain, but you made it look fun....

    Canoe LewCanoe Lew29 ditë më parë
  • Cool

    Don WimberleyDon Wimberley29 ditë më parë
  • The chain you bought was probably made in China. Don’t buy chain made in China.

    Edward HartEdward HartMuaj më parë
  • It hilarious to watch someone that has no idea what they are doing! Lol. You have never worked a hard day in your life. Thanks for the entertainment

    Jon SiskJon SiskMuaj më parë
  • Love you guys

    Quoc TrinhQuoc TrinhMuaj më parë
  • There is a saying which has been widely used in Australia to describe anything that is not up to scratch for a long time. We say such things are "rough as guts" and that Panama chain? Definitely qualifies. If something is up to standard or better we say "it's the ducks guts".

    whotknotswhotknotsMuaj më parë
  • Nice to have rich family...

    MopedMikeMopedMikeMuaj më parë
  • To cool your coffee put it in a metal colander and put that on top of a fan. WorKs beautifully!!!

    TTMuaj më parë
  • Welcome to the world of counterfeit parts. It used to be that bolts were the biggest counterfeit item, with likely half of more of the world's supply of bolts being marked as a higher grade than what they actually were. In the automotive and aerospace industry this was a major issue as they were used in engines, mounts, and other critical applications where a sudden and catastrophic part failure can be expensive and/or deadly. China is the biggest manufacturer of counterfeit parts - computer parts, nuts & bolts, flooring, chain......

    No Longer AmusedNo Longer AmusedMuaj më parë
  • Ok you got me there, how the hell are they going to carry that chain between two bikes ?!!!! and I want one of those Mini 2's

    StephenStephenMuaj më parë
  • I enjoy watching you guys so much he is so funny. You make life on a boat exciting. My boyfriend want to live on one and I'm like huh. Lol till I seen you guys can't wait now.

    wenona Holliswenona HollisMuaj më parë
  • "Now we can go another 10 inches " "That is not what she said " Bahahahaha

    Honking DonkHonking DonkMuaj më parë
    • 😱😆😆😆

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the WynnsMuaj më parë
  • The old anchor chain will be recycled into Heinz Beans tins, the old anchor chain was originally old Heinz Beans tins recycled into an anchor chain. BTW, I have no interest in boats, my interest is overlanding in a 38 year old campervan. It's surprising just how much kit/fixtures/fittings boats and overlanders share.

    Bukaru SturmjägerBukaru SturmjägerMuaj më parë
  • For the song category: "Working on a chain gang" by Sam Cooke. Thanks for the good advice

    Golden AcresGolden AcresMuaj më parë
  • Joeys useless fact of the day!!! Centipedes use adapted front legs called toxicognaths to inject venom into the victim Toxicognaths is my favourite word BTW

    Joey DR14Joey DR14Muaj më parë
  • Sweet that you are getting into roasting. I cool my beans by pouring them between a colander and mixing bowl. Cold MN air also helps.

    Matt LorfeldMatt LorfeldMuaj më parë
  • Why didn't you just cut the chain

    peter morellipeter morelliMuaj më parë
    • Because then it would just be scrap metal instead of being useful anchor chain for 2 other boats.... Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the WynnsMuaj më parë
  • Gosh! That cheap chain in salt water is suffering a “chain reaction”! lol. Wonder how skinny it is today!

    TripleBlackTripleBlackMuaj më parë
  • GOOD LAWD ALL MITGHTY! The wife is FREAKING SMOKING HOT! OK that out of the way. It would have been REALLY nice if you would have shown the chain being installed and pulled up. Feels like a huge let down. All that lead up and then nothing.

    Aztec WarriorAztec Warrior2 muaj më parë
  • Looks like that chain was electroplated and not galvanised, if you can not stretch to stainless. Hot dipped galvanized is the only other option.

    Land Rover AddictLand Rover Addict2 muaj më parë
  • Why didn't you just cut it??

    Mark KuziaMark Kuzia2 muaj më parë
    • Because then we couldn't recycle it.

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns2 muaj më parë
  • Y’all like dji huh

    Joe WayneJoe Wayne2 muaj më parë
  • How many drones does it take the Wynns to make a cup of coffee?

    shop shopshop shop2 muaj më parë
    • 😆☕

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns2 muaj më parë
  • Nikki's was better till she pulled the ? bight ? through at the end, she still had a quick release knot. ;.-)

    Samuel K. TennisSamuel K. Tennis2 muaj më parë
  • Loving your videos guys! But dude cut that goofy friggin hair lol 😉😁

    Brian NasarenkoBrian Nasarenko2 muaj më parë
  • I just love your attitute!

    Stein JohansenStein Johansen2 muaj më parë
  • 10mm Stainless chain from Germany - top class, has a 5 stamped into every 5th link. 6 years, 23,000 Nm and 33 countries later....still shiny and going strong!

    Sailing Catamaran ElementSailing Catamaran Element2 muaj më parë
  • Why not use bolt cutters and take the chain out manually?

    James WesthartJames Westhart3 muaj më parë
  • SO WHY NOT STAINLESS STEEL CHAIN ?????????????????????????????????

    Robert CowanRobert Cowan3 muaj më parë
    • Couple reasons. The first is that it's really expensive, but more importantly, stainless is subject to something called work hardening. It becomes brittle with use and can snap with no warning. And that's never good when you're anchored. Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns3 muaj më parë
  • Great videography guys....the episodes just keep getting better.

    Trevor WardTrevor Ward3 muaj më parë
  • Niki , it’s galvanizing. I don’t think galvanization is correct.

    paul gillilandpaul gilliland3 muaj më parë
  • I'm sorry to hear that you were scammed on anchor chain. Anchor chain can definitely be re-galvanized, but not every hot dip galvanizer can do it. The galvanizer has to be able to spin the chain to remove the excess zinc after they pull it our of the hot dip tank or all of the links will stick together. In Houston, Texas, Madden Galvanizing has this capability and they can re-galvanize anchor chain. They sand blast the chain before galvanizing it. On my trawler, I had 300 feet of 5/16 HT ACCO chain that was 16 years old, rusty, but not in too bad a shape. I had it re-galvanized by Madden Galvanizing and they charged me $325. They base their charge on the weight of zinc applied to the chain. To replace the 300 foot of chain with new ACCO chain from West Marine would have cost me $1,677. To replace the chain from Defender Industries with new ACCO chain would have cost me $912, which is 46% less than the West Marine price. It's always worth checking the Defender Industries price. My re-galvanized chain is now 9 years old and it looks almost like new. When I replace this anchor chain (or when I get a new boat), I'm going with Cromox Duplex Stainless chain from Ketten Waelder. It doesn't have the issues that 300 series stainless steel has and it's only about 3 times the Defender Industries price of the ACCO HT galvanized chain. The 300 foot of Cromox Duplex Stainless chain will cost $3,200 but it will last forever.

    David TownsendDavid Townsend3 muaj më parë
  • Of course your chain is going to rust, you don't take care of it. I rinse with fresh was as it comes aboard then flush the chain locker with fresh water, after about an hour of sitting I mist cheap veg oil in the chain locker . i also neve have growth on my hulls as they are brushed off twice weelkly and get a good swim in the meantime, dry suit for colder water and hooka

    Mazda rx7Mazda rx73 muaj më parë
  • Why not just cut it and pulling out by hand ?

    Lakeside motorsportsLakeside motorsports3 muaj më parë
  • This is my new favorite channel 💓 You guys are lovely, safe travels and many blessings to you both!

    Jaymi W.P.Jaymi W.P.3 muaj më parë
  • I use to wire and install hardware on PDQ catamarans for 10 years. Watching this brings back memories. Never ever did sailing which is hard to believe. But ive crawled and worked in soooo many tight spaces i feel for you all.. However, its was always rewarding. Happy sailing.

    BmanBman3 muaj më parë
  • Putting a wooden block down would have made a great 'soft' anvil and saved you a lot of effort.

    Draconisrex1Draconisrex13 muaj më parë
  • I got stung by one of them as they have them in Spain hand was like a balloon for about a week bit longer then it lived

    Carl LloydCarl Lloyd3 muaj më parë
  • Hi Wynns! Love your videos! What kind of bikes do you have?

    Tara TraegerTara Traeger3 muaj më parë
    • There's more info and a link to them here: www.gonewiththewynns.com/boat-back-to-life Don't forget that shopping through those links won't cost you anything extra but it will put a few pennies into the sailing kitty. Happy shopping! Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns3 muaj më parë
  • The beans that you would buy (except French roast) have a small amount of moisture. That is because coffee companies (I worked for one) mist the beans with water when they come out of the roaster to stop them from continuing to cook. Since you like medium roast, that would work for you too. It's faster than air cooling and more precise.

    Michael SelbyMichael Selby3 muaj më parë
  • Chain storage needs a slightly elevated grate so it can dry off. That is why the further out you went, the worse it was. First in stayed wet.

    Loren KinzelLoren Kinzel3 muaj më parë
  • Cant buy fresh coffee in Panama? Hard to believe.

    rickblackburnrickblackburn3 muaj më parë
  • B.O.A.T. BREAK OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND!

    Patrick SandersPatrick Sanders3 muaj më parë
  • If you want to cool something quik...DONT LEAVE IT ON A HOT PAN! Transfer to another cold pan!

    Patrick SandersPatrick Sanders3 muaj më parë
    • This isn’t actually how we cool our beans. It was a joke leading into talking about the new drone.

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns3 muaj më parë
  • Call Tulsa Chain! And watch SV Seeker!

    Patrick SandersPatrick Sanders3 muaj më parë
  • The 'imported' chain was from China which is *NOTARIOUS* as using cheap metals with _pretty_ platings !! - - - Like so so so many _cheap_ products that people get *burned* from China !! Sorry to hear your problems but at least its not aircraft rivets !! Consider yourselves very fortunate and very lucky you didn't pay with your lives. Remembers this for anything from China !!

    xo oxxo ox4 muaj më parë
  • Should have purchased a stainless steel anchor chain made of 318LN duplex. Yes it costs quite a bit but it is good for warm water. Has a great PREN and CPT value. It has a G6 grade so it is strong. A manufacturer in Germany (Ketten Wälder) will even give you a guarantee on it. They even have a super duplex stainless steel chain with even better PREN and CPT values. Yes, again it is quite expensive but will last for ages. Some Yacht manufacturers have started to offer the chains on newly built vessels.

    thelastapemanthelastapeman4 muaj më parë
  • I just seen you two buying a camper van, on TLC... You looked older then you look now. It must be your spoilt lifestyles... ;)

    Josko JansaJosko Jansa4 muaj më parë
  • aren't you supposed to washdown your chain with fresh water?

    dirtdudedirtdude4 muaj më parë
  • I would have sprayed 4 cans of penetrating oil all over that chain and walked away for a day or 2 then just ran it out with the windlass...

    RidgeRunner4X4RidgeRunner4X44 muaj më parë
  • where's the Nikki the Mermaid Swimsuit Calendar? :)

    Wine GeekWine Geek4 muaj më parë
  • Friendly & Charming channel. I'll stick around for more later.

    Helmsman 38Helmsman 384 muaj më parë
  • At a minimum you should paint the bitter end and the last 50' of chain. It's not surprising that when you left it on the hard for a year without any preservation of the chain.

    Patrick RadcliffePatrick Radcliffe4 muaj më parë
  • Man that chain looks like its been at the bottom of the sea for years , I would cut that of down there with a grinder.

    my surly truckermy surly trucker4 muaj më parë
  • Great video guys. What a fiasco with the chain. ouch! The things we take for granted, right? Happy sailing :-)

    My Dream Boat ProjectMy Dream Boat Project4 muaj më parë
  • Miami is such a fraud.uuugghhhhh!!!!!

    Nancy RomarizNancy Romariz4 muaj më parë
  • love your videos. at about 15:00 min mark of this video you mention your "awesome" camera drone performance in the wind. have you thought about throwing in some product review videos? the stuff you use is obviously travel tested so your reviews would be valuable. and when it comes time for me to buy my own stuff, i'll definitely go with your tried and true, everyday used stuff. everything from cameras, drones, salt and pepper shakers, cutlery, plates, cups, blankets, survival gear, etc... thanks for vids!

    Alex YiAlex Yi4 muaj më parë
    • There aren't many vids, but there is a whole Gear Store on the GWTW blog with links to lots of their favorite things! Some even have dsicount codes for substantial $$$$ off! Shopping through the links won't cost you anything extra and it'll throw a few pennies into the sailing kitty, so go shop! Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns4 muaj më parë
  • happened on this video by accident. Pathetic.

    Skip MarsSkip Mars4 muaj më parë
  • Wow that is crazy how much crap flaked off that chain.

    Chuck FowlerChuck Fowler4 muaj më parë
  • What if you splash it with fresh water in storage bin, before storing. When chain is new and clean, you can also spray paint it and spray oil after. 316 stainless is not much more expensive

    qbqb4 muaj më parë
  • Can you use the anti_corrosion spray on the chain?

    BajaNateBajaNate4 muaj më parë
  • Your Breville toaster oven looks great!

    shangaosurpriseshangaosurprise4 muaj më parë
  • So did you get your money back? If you paid for it with a credit card and have the correspondence and you are telling the truth about not getting what you were told you were getting, you can file a dispute with your credit card company. They should give you, your money back.

    Jason MaloneJason Malone4 muaj më parë
    • @Wally Kramer Wally, sorry, I work for a credit card processor. I don’t know anything about boats or chain, but I happen to be an expert at chargebacks and that is why I knew about it and suggested it. You should talk to the seller before filing a dispute, but that may not be required depending on the reason for the dispute. The point is that it is courteous to give the seller a chance to remedy the situation, especially because they are charged a fee for every chargeback (win or lose). And you are wrong about debit card chargebacks as well. The rules are slightly different because the Federal Government considers them similar to cash transactions. But the principal is the same. Everything I just said can be confirmed with a 5 second Google search.

      Jason MaloneJason MaloneMuaj më parë
    • @Jason Malone That is true of a credit card-sort of. But with a debit card (which is what most people now use), there is no transaction dispute process. Even for a credit card, you don't dispute with the card company: you have to take it up with the merchant. And that is a royal pain even in a civilized area like Europe. In Panama, I would expect them to not respond to the dispute documentation and not answer the phone.

      Wally KramerWally KramerMuaj më parë
    • @Wally Kramer maybe you don’t know anything about credit cards, and it sounds like you don’t. If you buy something with a credit card and don’t get what what was promised to you you can dispute that transaction. It is called a chargeback. You call your card issuer and file the dispute. Without asking the merchant (seller), they take the money back from the merchant’s bank account through and ACH debit and give you a provisional credit. The merchant is then contacted and given a chance to prove their case. In this case the seller admitted they did not sell them what they were told them they were buying. As long as you are telling the truth you should win and get to keep the money. If you lie and get caught, you may lose the ability to get a credit card in the future.

      Jason MaloneJason MaloneMuaj më parë
    • Maybe you missed the bit about "bought in Panama"? Like most of the world, retail sales is equivalent to "you buy it, you bought it" and "all sales final".

      Wally KramerWally KramerMuaj më parë
  • Ditch the rubber roller. Have a machine shop make one out of stainless steel, with a bronze oil impregnated bushing for the bearing the roller rides on. That chain is TOTALLY shot. Throw it away NOW. I've never SEEN such heavily corroded chain. I'm soooo old that we navigated with a sextant. Electric watches had tuning forks, not crystals. You could hear them hum, if you put the watch next to your ear. We lit, heated, and cooked with kerosene. Our food was canned or dried. All of that electronic stuff that is used today didn't exist. Broadcast radios? No. Weather faxes, nope. GPS? Nope. Radar? Nope. They existed, but were heavy, expensive, and used too much juice. Satellite phones? Nope. Cel phones? Nope. AIS? Nope. Electronic charts and plotters? Nope. You get the idea - Joshua Slocum mark II. The famously clumsy Gerald Ford was POTUS. There was a popular song called "Sailing," by the rather nasal Rod Stewart. alworld.info/u/video/d4DWl6WFlc1pZp4 . Voyaging catamarans were for crazy, clueless landlubbers. They were doomed to capsize and kill their crews. The real old salts were dubious about fiberglass boats. Etc.

    BenjaminFranklin99BenjaminFranklin994 muaj më parë
  • G4 specifies the strength and alloy of the chain. Galvanization is not specified by the designation. What's wanted is hot dipped galvanized. The finish should look dull and dusty, and rather irregular and a bit lumpy, not bright and shiny and perfect looking. That indicates hot dipped, not plated. Friends don't let friends buy Chinese anchor chain. I'd stick with ACCO. I'm an old voyaging yachtie - so old I had BBB chain, because G4 didn't exist in my day. ACCO G4 is the best anchor chain today. ACCO G4 has G4 stamped on every link, quite prominently. This chandler has great prices - www.defender.com/category.jsp?id=2276127&path=-1|2276108|2276124

    BenjaminFranklin99BenjaminFranklin994 muaj më parë
  • Chain quick info. Italian made is best. US made is OK. Chinese stuff is crap.(I wouldn't even use it for a fresh water mooring)

    Jeff DurdenJeff Durden4 muaj më parë
  • Thats Not what she Said.. 🐷🙈 12:36

    M.M.4 muaj më parë
  • There is a company Tulsa Chain in Tulsa Ok did a show with SV Seeker and talked about this very thing. The guy talked about how to tell if galvanization is good. He said if it is rough and not super smooth then it's not good chain. He said good chain is super smooth. It makes since. You see galvanized metal on old barns still good 50 or 60 years old that don't look even close to that rusty. I realize barn tin isn't in salt water but you guys fresh water rinsed everything extremely well and look at what happened. If you see the two different types side by side you will be able to tell it easily.

    David HarbisonDavid Harbison4 muaj më parë
  • "Thats not what she said" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Will ScrudatoWill Scrudato4 muaj më parë
    • 😆😂

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns4 muaj më parë
  • Why not Stainless Steel chain?

    Samm HillSamm Hill4 muaj më parë
    • Stainless is subject to "work hardening" which means it gets brittle & can break without warning. Not a good thing for an anchor chain! It's also a lot more expensive. Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns4 muaj më parë
  • She looks likes she's been working out! I'd miss the gym too much on a boat. :(

    Green LionGreen Lion4 muaj më parë
  • All this talk about chain, how much chain do you carry? Thanks

    Randy RableRandy Rable4 muaj më parë
  • Hi, why do you not want to get a stainless steel chain? I think it’s better as change every 2-3 years the chain and in the end it’s cheaper?

    Arno JansenArno Jansen4 muaj më parë
    • Because stainless steel is subject to "work hardenining" and gets brittle with use. It will fail with no warning. Curious Minion

      Gone with the WynnsGone with the Wynns4 muaj më parë
  • You guys are such a great chain gang. But for real, I always luv watching you two. Doing vid's myself on our channel and watch how you guys tell a story I think to myself....WOW the time they take to set up all these different shots, then shoot, then edit in post etc, etc. The time you take to put together a good story is just fantastic. I luv you guys so much and you inspire me to do better. But I'm older than you guys and not as much energy these days. I can't wait to see you guys set sail again. 💋 💋💋💋

    RVstreetRVstreet4 muaj më parë
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